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ocean-bleu a écrit:
j'ai toujours trouvé ça glauque les petites filles avec un voile sur la tête comme des femmes ... pcq à la base le voile c'est pour ne pas susciter de tentations chez les hommes, alors en mettant un voile à une petite fille de 8 ans ça veut dire qu'on considère qu'un homme pourrait être attiré sexuellement par elle et je trouve ça vraiment malsain enfin bref ce n'était qu'une parenthèse en voyant la photo ci dessus...
sinon pour l'interdiction du voile à la fac je sais pas trop quoi en penser de toute façon l'interdire ne va pas faire diminuer l'influence de l'islamisme et du communautarisme bien au contraire; d'ailleurs ait fraiso n'attend que ça... Mais je crois que ces filles s'excluent elles-mêmes j'ai pu remarquer dans ma fac que les voilées ne restent qu'entre elles et certaines sont même dédaigneuses envers les non-voilées j'en ai fait l'expérience je trouve ça dommage enfin bref. Au début de l'année il y avait même plusieurs filles qui venaient carrément en jilbab c'est sûr qu'il y a rien de mieux qu'un jilbab pour être discrète, et ne pas attirer le regard
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ocean-bleu a écrit:
j'ai toujours trouvé ça glauque les petites filles avec un voile sur la tête comme des femmes ... pcq à la base le voile c'est pour ne pas susciter de tentations chez les hommes, alors en mettant un voile à une petite fille de 8 ans ça veut dire qu'on considère qu'un homme pourrait être attiré sexuellement par elle et je trouve ça vraiment malsain enfin bref ce n'était qu'une parenthèse en voyant la photo ci dessus...
sinon pour l'interdiction du voile à la fac je sais pas trop quoi en penser de toute façon l'interdire ne va pas faire diminuer l'influence de l'islamisme et du communautarisme bien au contraire; d'ailleurs ait fraiso n'attend que ça... Mais je crois que ces filles s'excluent elles-mêmes j'ai pu remarquer dans ma fac que les voilées ne restent qu'entre elles et certaines sont même dédaigneuses envers les non-voilées j'en ai fait l'expérience je trouve ça dommage enfin bref. Au début de l'année il y avait même plusieurs filles qui venaient carrément en jilbab c'est sûr qu'il y a rien de mieux qu'un jilbab pour être discrète, et ne pas attirer le regard
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al_oustada' a écrit:
Je n'ai pas tout lu mais entièrement d'accord avec moh-b et Sanhaja-Upon-Thames.
Coldman je ne le lis pas et ça ne sert à rien de le lire, j'imagine déjà ses propos islamophobes qui
donnent la gerbe. Quant à mustapha-hussein tes commentaires sont aussi débiles et illogiques l'un
que l'autre.
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Lin-con-nu a écrit:
Aoul 7aja khassna ndirhoua houa: la li alfaranssia! machi houma ma kay7mlounach ou 7na nesta3mlou lihoum lought'houm w nssa3dou fi intichar'ha
Tani 7aja, elli begha yeqra, a7ssan aljami3at hia aljami3at al-anglophonia, ballak 3lik men franssa ou ma yeji men franssa.
It's time to face the bleak reality!
The reality is that the French elite and masses alike hate and disdain arabs and muslims. They don't want to see any arab or muslim in their country. They want them either to hide and ask for pardon for being what they are (muslims) or be sent back to their home countries.
Now, what should we do? are we just going to endure this situation and hope for better days? or are we finally going to stand up for our rights and let their stupid ruling class understand that enough is enough, and that they cannot continue treating us as sub-humans?
From my end, the first thing I will do to show my discontentment with this stupid and arrogant attitude and to protest against such a discriminatory and intolerant law, is to stop using French and stop spreading it. Why should we adopt and propagate the culture of a country so arab and muslim -unfriendly such as France???
From now on, no more word in French on Yabi. Never!
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al_oustada' a écrit:
Je n'ai pas tout lu mais entièrement d'accord avec moh-b et Sanhaja-Upon-Thames.
Coldman je ne le lis pas et ça ne sert à rien de le lire, j'imagine déjà ses propos islamophobes qui
donnent la gerbe. Quant à mustapha-hussein tes commentaires sont aussi débiles et illogiques l'un
que l'autre.
le probléme, c'est qu'il y a bien 80 pour cent de français qui pensent comme moi.
il y a donc au moins 80 % "d'islamophobes" en france.
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Lin-con-nu a écrit:
Aoul 7aja khassna ndirhoua houa: la li alfaranssia! machi houma ma kay7mlounach ou 7na nesta3mlou lihoum lought'houm w nssa3dou fi intichar'ha
Tani 7aja, elli begha yeqra, a7ssan aljami3at hia aljami3at al-anglophonia, ballak 3lik men franssa ou ma yeji men franssa.
It's time to face the bleak reality!
The reality is that the French elite and masses alike hate and disdain arabs and muslims. They don't want to see any arab or muslim in their country. They want them either to hide and ask for pardon for being what they are (muslims) or be sent back to their home countries.
Now, what should we do? are we just going to endure this situation and hope for better days? or are we finally going to stand up for our rights and let their stupid ruling class understand that enough is enough, and that they cannot continue treating us as sub-humans?
From my end, the first thing I will do to show my discontentment with this stupid and arrogant attitude and to protest against such a discriminatory and intolerant law, is to stop using French and stop spreading it. Why should we adopt and propagate the culture of a country so arab and muslim -unfriendly such as France???
From now on, no more word in French on Yabi. Never!
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Lin-con-nu a écrit:
Aoul 7aja khassna ndirhoua houa: la li alfaranssia! machi houma ma kay7mlounach ou 7na nesta3mlou lihoum lought'houm w nssa3dou fi intichar'ha
Tani 7aja, elli begha yeqra, a7ssan aljami3at hia aljami3at al-anglophonia, ballak 3lik men franssa ou ma yeji men franssa.
It's time to face the bleak reality!
The reality is that the French elite and masses alike hate and disdain arabs and muslims. They don't want to see any arab or muslim in their country. They want them either to hide and ask for pardon for being what they are (muslims) or be sent back to their home countries.
Now, what should we do? are we just going to endure this situation and hope for better days? or are we finally going to stand up for our rights and let their stupid ruling class understand that enough is enough, and that they cannot continue treating us as sub-humans?
From my end, the first thing I will do to show my discontentment with this stupid and arrogant attitude and to protest against such a discriminatory and intolerant law, is to stop using French and stop spreading it. Why should we adopt and propagate the culture of a country so arab and muslim -unfriendly such as France???
From now on, no more word in French on Yabi. Never!
You made me laugh Lin-co-nu wallah my man... There's really a big issue in France and especially among the Muslim community. And sad to say, but they're mostly accountable for these issues. WTH! Why are they so weak? ? Why don't they just stand together and speak with one voice at once? Some of our lads take part in their bloody political parties but none of them is even able to express clearly their point of view, they just follow like sheeps (sorry flabbergasted, BTW I know you are...) but that's what they do and they've ever done for ages...
The problem with our Muslim community in France is the gap between the speach and the image they show. They give a speachless image to the public opinion. There are so many things to do to fight for their own rights such as demonstating accordingly and effectively. But not only, because as far as I'm concerned, they live in Europe, therefore, they should know and be aware that European law is above any national law. At some point, they might as well raise the case to the European High Court of Justice and probably to the European Court of Human Rights. It is indeed and with no doubt a matter of individual liberties and freedom of faith. And as long as Muslims in France exercise their Treaty Rights, they not only should but they must take advantage of these European Institutions. Anyways, may Allah stand with them..
As for the French language, I srictly do not agree with most of what you say. Listen mate, I do not live in France, thank God, nor am I blindly supporting French language. But I strongly encourage people to master it as much as they can. I use French in my everyday tasks at work and beleive me, I do master it even better than the highest academic average in France so far. And there's another issue among our people in France. They should master it themeselves and use it against that bureaucracy that never showed a piece of respect towards them for decades. But yet they don't learn. I'm just concerned it might be the case for many many years to come... Oh dear!
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Flabbergasted a écrit:
Hello,
Well I don't share your point of you. Indeed there are assholes in France and that the french people is beginning to be globally racist, and stupid. But I don't think that not talking french is going to change anything. First of all, I really like the langage so I don't think I should stop speaking it. But also, there are so many good, intelligent, bright french people it would be a waste to stop using it. Nowaday, it is true that those who scream their hatred are numerus and visible but there are also good people, who know, think and don't follow like sheep, the movement. So for them, for the beautiful country, for the culture which is marvellous I won't stop. I don't forget, I don't forgive, but I try not to give a shit and to fight for my convictions. I am flabbergasted, but I think it's not too late to change things ant to reverse the scale.
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Flabbergasted a écrit:
Well I don't share your point of you.
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Flabbergasted a écrit:
Well I don't share your point of you.
Ah oui puis j'imagine que tu voulais dire "point of view" ?
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Unesuggestion a écrit:
En Europe, l'allemand est nettement plus utile que l'anglais.
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mustapha-hussein a écrit:
Si c'est le MAIS qui vous dérnge quelque peu, je peux le remplacer par ET.....
Je vous ramène à votre propre incohérence de propos...:
"Monsieur Mustapha Hussein, cette France, elle est quand même bien au courant de la culture et des principes religieux de ces pauvres immigrés qu'elle ramenés chez elle en masse, après les avoir colonisés". ,
quand un pays colonisé en arrive à une guerre pour retrouver son indépendance, une fois retrouvée
cette dernière on la chérit, on la cultive, on en prend soin. On ne la fuit pas pour retrouver à
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mustapha-hussein a écrit:
Pourquoi exiger un "auditoire"......instruit ? seriez-vous dédaigneux des personnes qui ici conversent
et échangent? dans ce cas choisissez des lieux à la hauteur de votre érudition.
Pour votre gouverne, instruit je crois l'être suffisamment.
Votre réponse s'affilie à une esquive.
Bonne soirée.
Absolument pas d'esquive... Ca tomberait juste dans l'oreille d'un sourd, voilà tout.
Je dirai juste ici, pour faire l'économie de ma salive - oops! de mon clavier - que vos propos ne revêtent aucune notion d'histoire historico-socio-politique. Franchement, est-il utile de développer le pourquoi du comment de l'émigration des anciens colonisés vers le pays colonisateur? ? Ils ont fui l'indépendance, ou des dirigeants tyranniques et corrompus? ? Dites-moi?
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Lin-con-nu a écrit:
Aoul 7aja khassna ndirhoua houa: la li alfaranssia! machi houma ma kay7mlounach ou 7na nesta3mlou lihoum lought'houm w nssa3dou fi intichar'ha
Tani 7aja, elli begha yeqra, a7ssan aljami3at hia aljami3at al-anglophonia, ballak 3lik men franssa ou ma yeji men franssa.
It's time to face the bleak reality!
The reality is that the French elite and masses alike hate and disdain arabs and muslims. They don't want to see any arab or muslim in their country. They want them either to hide and ask for pardon for being what they are (muslims) or be sent back to their home countries.
Now, what should we do? are we just going to endure this situation and hope for better days? or are we finally going to stand up for our rights and let their stupid ruling class understand that enough is enough, and that they cannot continue treating us as sub-humans?
From my end, the first thing I will do to show my discontentment with this stupid and arrogant attitude and to protest against such a discriminatory and intolerant law, is to stop using French and stop spreading it. Why should we adopt and propagate the culture of a country so arab and muslim -unfriendly such as France???
From now on, no more word in French on Yabi. Never!
Hello,
Well I don't share your point of you. Indeed there are assholes in France and that the french people is beginning to be globally racist, and stupid. But I don't think that not talking french is going to change anything. First of all, I really like the langage so I don't think I should stop speaking it. But also, there are so many good, intelligent, bright french people it would be a waste to stop using it. Nowaday, it is true that those who scream their hatred are numerus and visible but there are also good people, who know, think and don't follow like sheep, the movement. So for them, for the beautiful country, for the culture which is marvellous I won't stop. I don't forget, I don't forgive, but I try not to give a shit and to fight for my convictions. I am flabbergasted, but I think it's not too late to change things ant to reverse the scale.