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Poisson abyssal a écrit:
Salam alaykoum,
Puisque quelqu'un m'a posé une question à laquelle je n'ai pas pu répondre (le topic ayant été verrouillé), je pose ici cette fatwa sur la licéité de la gélatine animale dans des aliments ou médicaments, selon le principe d'istihala (comme pour le vinaigre, les peaux tannées, etc)
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What is the ruling on gelatin whether derived from cows or pigs?
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In the Name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful. All praises are due to Him and we ask Him to bestow His Peace and Blessings upon the Prophet Muhammad.
We read in the authentic texts that we are taught that Islam is easy and not difficult and/or rigid. Therefore, one should not go out of ones way to find haram. It has been authentically narrated that the Prophet forbade at-takalluf from the Sahabah (meaning that one is determined to find something to be Haram). Although in any given circumstances, if we find (for sure) something to be haram or there is a heavy suspicion that something is prohibited, then and only then we should stay away from that thing. The scholars of Juristic Principles say that the basic ruling for everything is permissibility except that which has been expressly forbidden by either the Qur’an, Sunnah, or consensus of Muslim scholars.
As regards to your question, believe it or not, there is a difference of opinion about the permissibility of gelatin.
The average Muslim and most scholars will tell you that without a doubt anything with gelatin made from animals is Haram especially if it is from Pork. It might be startling to hear this new ijtihad which is based in science. Of course there is no doubt that it is categorically forbidden to eat any type of pig meat or that of a dead animal. So of course before the issue of the chemical molecular process of making gelatin was brought up, there was a consensus that gelatin was forbidden if derived from pork. The new opinion which is held by many scholars on the major Fiqh councils is based in the reality that gelatin is taken from the collagen molecules from the bones or skin usually from pigs and sometimes cows. Through a process called “Istihaalah” in Arabic the chemical structure and molecular class of protein in the collagen is changed to form a new gel-like substance known as gelatin.
Similarly grapes are permissible, but when they are transformed into alcohol then they become forbidden, but then when alcohol becomes vinegar then it becomes permissible.
Regarding this process in general, the scholars are split about the purity of something that changed through istihaalah in which it has transformed due to a chemical reconfiguration to the point that the new substance could not be called by the name of the old. So naturally, the scholars are split on the permissibility of gelatin. Some of those who hold that through istihaalah [seeking to make something impure pure] something becomes pure are not convinced that the process of changing collagen (substance in cow and pig bones) to gelatin is enough to call it different molecular structure than its origin. But many scientists would disagree with them, thus supporting the new opinion. The role in making a fatwa on an issue like this is not to allow the fact that it came from pork to influence the final ruling, instead it should be to establish scientifically if the process of istihaalah took place or not.
I support the first opinion that there is a clear change in chemical structure thus becoming a different substance altogether which does not carry the ruling of cow or pig bone. This opinion is based on thorough scientific research from Muslim and non-Muslim resources. But I am still wary of eating things with gelatin because of the original disagreement of the process of istihaalah.
Some scholars who support the purity of gelatin are Dr. Yusuf Al-Qaradawi (Member many Fiqh councils), Dr. Abdul-Ghaffar Ash-Sharif (Former Dean/Professor of Shari’ah Kuwait college), Tahir al-Mahdi al-Baleeli (European Fiqh Council), Muhammad Al-Hawaari (European Council for Fatwa Research).
And Allah knows best,
Abu Majeed
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Fassia92 a écrit:
salam
Sujet très intéressant, d'autant plus qu'il y a une approche scientifique via l'explication du principe de la transformation au niveau moléculaire, et donc de l'action de la substance. L'exemple du vinaigre comme analogie est pertinent.
A voir, pour ma conso perso j'évite dans le doute.. mais le sujet est intéressant.
Attend toi à recevoir les foudres des salafistes et autres khawarij qui vont venir jeter l’opprobre sur Dr Quaradawi...
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Soult* a écrit:
Tu ne peux pas mélanger le secteur alimentaire et le secteur médicale, je ne comprends pas qu'on puisse douter sur le fait que manger de la gélatine de porc soit illicite..
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Tradiprogress a écrit:
les lsd n existait pas non plus à l époque
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Poisson abyssal a écrit:
Rien à voir... Le LSD est un produit provoquant l'ivresse, et l'ivresse est clairement interdite par le Coran.
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Tradiprogress a écrit:
lsd héroïne cocaïne anxyyolitique provoque l ivresse ?sois raisonnable un peu.
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Tradiprogress a écrit:
c'est toi qui induit les gens en erreur en disant que la gélatine de porc n est pas haram. n inverse pas les rôles.
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Tradiprogress a écrit:
les lsd n existait pas non plus à l époque
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Poisson abyssal a écrit:
Je ne fais que rapporter des avis de savants, notamment Qardawi.
Si ces avis ne te plaisent pas, tu es libre de ne pas les suivre, mais respecte au moins ceux qui se consacrent à le science.
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Tradiprogress a écrit:
dans ce cas rapporte aussi les avis contradictoire d autre savants pour que chacun puisse jugé en son âme et conscience.
ça c'est de l honnêteté intellectuelle.
t aime trop les fraise Tagada c est pour ca peut être.
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Fassia92 a écrit:
pas compris désolé...
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