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Z
23 juillet 2005 01:13
Sir Ken Livingston.
Je voulais saluer le courage et la sagesse de ce grand homme qui est toujours resté fidele a ses principes. Monsieur Livingston merci pour votre ouverture d'esprit, votre esprit critique, vos declarations au Tac o Tac pour eviter que l'on jette l'opprobe sur les musulmans britanniques.

Vous n'hesitez pas a porter la contradiction au Labour ,votre parti, quand il s'agit de condamner l'invasion de l'Irak.

Je vous remercie pour vos position fermes à l'egard d'Israel.

Je loue vos reflexion sur la necessité de laisser les gouvernement arabes disposer de leur souveraineté qui selon vous ne leur a jamais appartenu à cause de 80 ans de feodalisation occidentale apres la 1er Guerre mondiale dans le but de s'accaparer leurs richesses peroliferes.

Je vous rend grace d'avoir lier les attentats de Londres à l'invasion decidé unilateralement par Downing Street au mepris d'un peuple a plus de 70% hostile et qui etait 3 millions a manifester rien qu'a Londres.

And Finally thank you for being so british Lord Ken, I Love You smiling smiley


PS:Non il ne m'a pas promis la nationalité londonienne grinning smiley




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Z
23 juillet 2005 01:14
Un florilege de ces declarations (in english of course):

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London mayor: Likud and Hamas are `two sides of the same coin'

London Mayor Ken Livingstone told Sky News yesterday that he does not distinguish between members of Likud and Hamas, branding them as "two sides of the same coin."

"I think it is the Israelis who are leading the stubborn line," said Livingstone, who is known for consistently criticizing Israeli policy. "The Likud and Hamas members are two sides of the same coin. They need each other in order to attract support," he said.

"Each side emphasizes the extremism of the other in order to attract sympathy," Livingstone said during an interview with Sky News.

Livingstone agreed to the interview in the wake of the media frenzy surrounding the possible visit of controversial Muslim cleric Yusuf al-Qaradawi, who has voiced support for Palestinian suicide bombers and has been banned from entering the United States.

"I believe it is forbidden to take human life," Livingstone said. "I will welcome and meet with senior members of the Israeli government if they come here because they serve their country's government even though I believe they have done terrible things bordering on crimes against humanity."

Livingstone said Israel has indiscriminately killed men, women, and children in the West Bank and Gaza Strip for dozens of years.
01:40 20/07/2005

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London mayor defends the use of Palestinian suicide bombers

Less than two weeks since the London terror attacks, the city's Mayor Ken Livingstone has sparked controversy by defending the use of suicide bombers in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and charging that Israel had indiscriminately slaughtered Palestinians in acts that "border on crimes against humanity."

"Given that the Palestinians don't have jet planes, don't have tanks, they only have their bodies to use as weapons," Livingstone told Sky News in an interview.

"In an unfair balance, that's what people use," said Livingstone, who has often been strongly critical of Israel in the past.

On July 7, more than 50 people died in four London bombings believed to have been carried out by suicide terrorists.

At the time, Livingstone was uncompromising in his condemnation of the terror acts.

Livingstone said that Israel has "done horrendous things which border on crimes against humanity the way they have indiscriminately slaughtered men, women and children in the West Bank and Gaza for decades."

Livingstone also said that he does not distinguish between members of Likud and Hamas, branding them "two sides of the same coin."

"I think it is the Israelis who are leading the stubborn line," said Livingstone. "The Likud and Hamas members are two sides of the same coin. They need each other in order to attract support."

"Each side emphasizes the extremism of the other in order to attract sympathy," Livingstone said.

Livingstone agreed to the interview in the wake of the media frenzy surrounding the possible visit of controversial Muslim cleric Yusuf al-Qaradawi, who has voiced support for Palestinian suicide bombers and has been banned from entering the United States.

Livingstone denied that Qaradawi will visit London,.

"I believe it is forbidden to take human life," Livingstone said. "I will welcome and meet with senior members of the Israeli government if they come here because they serve their country's government even though I believe they have done terrible things bordering on crimes against humanity."
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Z
23 juillet 2005 01:18
Une photo: smiling smiley
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S
23 juillet 2005 17:06

zackmtl, exactement mon frere, Mr Livingstone est un grand homme
le crime ne paye pas, mais il occupe
Z
23 juillet 2005 17:18
Soprano a écrit:
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> > zackmtl, exactement mon frere, Mr Livingstone
> est un grand homme
>
> I never lie to any man because I don't fear
> anyone.
> The only time you lie is when you are afraid


allah y hefdek khouya,
decidement ca fait beaucoup de points comms entre nous winking smiley
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m
4 août 2005 23:03
Salaam Zack,

Juste pour platonifier ton amour pour Mr Livingstonewinking smiley:

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J'espere que ce grand homme deviendra un jour le premier ministre Anglais.
Z
17 mai 2006 18:31
Salam,
Ma personnalité occidentale préférait a reçu ma personnalité latin préféré c'est genial!!!
(Ken Livingstone recoit Chavez)

[vheadline.com]



Revolution in the air as Chavez -- with amigo Ken -- gets a hero's welcome

The (UK) Guardian (Duncan Campbell and Jonathan Steele): He has been called a terrorist by Washington but for three and a half hours yesterday in London he could do no wrong. An adoring audience of British left-wingers and the Latin American Diaspora cheered, clapped, sang and laughed as Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez denounced President Bush and capitalism and praised Ken Livingstone and the Pope.

The Camden centre in north London is usually home to trade fairs, conferences and school exams, but yesterday it throbbed with calls for a new world order.

"We love you," shouted a woman at the 800-strong gathering, which President Chavez had been invited to attend by London's mayor. "We love you very much," responded the President in unexpected English. To applause, he told them: "I was remembering my English classes in school. I remember very much my English classes -- 'Do you want a coffee? Do you want a glass of milk'?"

During his marathon address, with occasional pauses to ask his "amigo" Ken whether his time was up, he managed to refer to everyone from George Bernard Shaw to Rosa Luxemburg, Pythagoras to Thomas Jefferson, CLR James to his mother. Reminding his audience it was mother's day in Venezuela and that his speech was going out live on his weekly program, he even managed to send a message to his mum.

"Sometimes I'm a terrorist according to Washington or a guy who does military coups," said President Chavez in front of a backdrop of his country's red, blue and yellow flag. "But all we did was participate in a revolutionary movement, which is what we are doing now." He went through a history of revolution in Latin America and described how his hero, Simon Bolivar, had visited London in 1810.

He said: "I am a Catholic and a Christian and a very committed Christian and I was talking to the Pope about the struggle against poverty -- I call it Christ's cause." Then he was talking about the first time he had met Fidel Castro.

He won applause from a large contingent of banner-bearing women when he said that one of the features of capitalism is that it excludes and exploits women.

On the platform with him were many leading figures of the left. He pointed out Tariq Ali, and made him show the crowd a satirical poster he had portraying Chavez, Castro and Bolivia's president, Evo Morales, as the Pirates of the Caribbean. He attacked the administration in Washington as "the greatest threat to this planet ... Imagine they launch this attack on Iran. They've got it planned. If the US attack Iran, people in England who drive cars will have to park them. Oil will be $100 a barrel."

The man who survived a coup in 2002 -- "planned in the Pentagon and the White House" - told the audience to huge applause: "I know there are plans to kill me. It doesn't matter. It won't stop me."

Last time he visited England, he had tea with the Queen and met Tony Blair but there was no mention of the prime minister yesterday although he has referred to him in the past as a "pawn of imperialism." But he did repeatedly say: "We are socialists. We are building it; it comes from our soul; it has to be imbued with humanism. If you can't love, you can't be a socialist."

In the audience was Bianca Jagger (left) who said she had come to "listen and learn ... I'm Nicaraguan so I am interested in the politics of Latin America and I have one or two questions I would like to ask him." She said it was important for people in Europe to understand the motivations of President Chavez and President Morales with regard to their energy supplies. "You need to understand the history of the oil companies in Latin America," she said. "They left a terrible environmental disaster behind them and they have never been accountable for it."

The Labour MP (avid VHeadline.com reader, pictured right) Jeremy Corbyn, who was on the platform, said: "I am very interested in what they are doing in Venezuela in terms of lessening the gap between rich and poor. Maybe the British government could learn something from that. Blair and the government should recognise which way the wind is blowing in Latin America."

Bob Neill, Leader of the London Assembly Conservatives, will be meeting a delegation of Venezuelan dissidents at City Hall today. Mr. Neill said: "They will be able to relay first-hand experiences of violence and oppression in Venezuela."

President Chavez had arrived in London from a summit in Vienna of leaders from the EU and Latin America and Caribbean nations. This week he will be going to Algeria and Libya.

In Vienna, he had said: "The final hours of empire have arrived. Now we have to say to the empire 'We are not afraid of you, you are a paper tiger'."

* He suggested the US was as doomed as a pig on its way to the slaughterhouse.

* He also wanted to provide cheap heating oil for poor Europeans.

"I want to humbly offer support to the poorest people who do not have resources for central heating in winter and make sure that support arrives."

Revolution in the Camden air as Chavez - with amigo Ken - gets a hero's welcome
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s
17 mai 2006 21:36
Salam Zack .


Donc , tu l'avais deja fait ta declaration à amigo Ken ? hihi

C'est vrai , respect mr Livingstone .



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siryne
w
17 mai 2006 23:27
je me joint a vous pour saluer ce MONSIEUR
 
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