what we refer to in our moroccan society as : chaf jen, ma9yousse, darbouh jnoune

if you have any one in your family who says he seen a ghost tell him or her to get his eyes checked it s a sign of deteriation of the sight

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thanks the tiger for this valuable information
you know a lot of people in Morocco when they have these visual hallucinations think they have a lot of talents in clairvoyance , magic , access to supernatural world
a lot of of the so called choafa or choafe with this eye desease think these pictures they see while awake are their ghost servants

this is based out on our level of knowledge as it stands now.

does not make either of the parties right 100% or wrong 100%

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"Hé ! bonjour, Monsieur du Corbeau.
Que vous êtes joli ! que vous me semblez beau !
Sans mentir, si votre ramage
Se rapporte à votre plumage,
Vous êtes le Phénix des hôtes de ces bois."

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l9bi7
this is based out on our level of knowledge as it stands now.
does not make either of the parties right 100% or wrong 100%

??????????? which means ?????????hallucinations of paranormal and idiotic explanations for physical illnesses by some supernatural ideas have in your opinion the same credibility as a proven scientific fact

a doctor is like chouaf no difference ??? is that it

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l9bi7
this is based out on our level of knowledge as it stands now.
does not make either of the parties right 100% or wrong 100%

??????????? which means ?????????hallucinations of paranormal and idiotic explanations for physical illnesses by some supernatural ideas have in your opinion the same credibility as a proven scientific fact

a doctor is like chouaf no difference ??? is that it

there is nothing such as proven scientific.

an example ? we all studied Newtonian physics. guess what ? quantum physics goes totally against that so what it real what is not ?

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"Hé ! bonjour, Monsieur du Corbeau.
Que vous êtes joli ! que vous me semblez beau !
Sans mentir, si votre ramage
Se rapporte à votre plumage,
Vous êtes le Phénix des hôtes de ces bois."

we are not talking here about newtorian physics or darwinisme where we can say may be or uncertain , ....etc
charles bonnet syndrome is a desease , when a person with this illness is X RAYED you will see clearly that there is a physical damage in the back of the eye which is responsible of the failure to send the image signal to the brain thats a fact there is no may or may be not
it s like cancer when x rayed you can see the tumour clearly
diabetic and the insoline
when a cardiologist tells an ill person with weak heart you have a blocked artery it s a fact , he is not imagining or being phylosophical
deseases have specific symptons
1+1=2 we can not say may be 3or 4

hal yastawi alladina ya3lamoune walladina la ya3lamoune you can not compare hallucinations of supernatural beliefs with scientific facts