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messageMorocco drives out its Berbers, then spies on them   
Posted by: sbs2000
Date: September 21, 2008 06:14PM

Morocco drives out its Berbers, then spies on them

By Mohamed Amezian and Nicolien den Boer*

19-09-2008

The Moroccan Secret Service's attempts to recruit spies in the Netherlands has angered the Dutch government. And in Morocco, the espionage affair has provoked heated discussion. It seems that Morocco feels threatened by the Berber population living abroad and wants to monitor the life of its second-class citizens in foreign countries. Most of the Moroccans living in the Netherlands are Berbers from the Rif region.

The furore erupted after the dismissal of the Rotterdam police officer, Re Lemhaouli, following allegations that the policeman had been passing information to the Moroccan Secret Service via the embassy in The Hague. The Dutch government protested to the Moroccan Embassy. This week, the Dutch current affairs TV programme NOVA revealed that Rabat had recalled two its diplomats two months ago, after receiving the complaints about the alleged espionage. Foreign Minister Maxime Verhagen has made it very clear that he does not appreciate Morocco's interference in internal Dutch affairs. The Dutch parliament is to hold an emergency debate on the affair next week.

Activity well-known
It has since transpired that the Rotterdam police officer is not the only person to have been approached. Fouad el Haji, a Labour local councillor, claims that he was also contacted, "just like a former Dutch MP of Moroccan origin." Mr el Haji was apparently referring to former Socialist Party MP Ali Lazrak, who denies having been approached himself, adding that "it was well known that the Moroccan Secret Service was active in the Netherlands" and that other prominent politicians of Moroccan origin were asked to lend their co-operation.

A colleague at Radio Netherlands Worldwide confirms that certain Dutch citizens of Moroccan origin are routinely approached by the secret service. "The Moroccan government approached me years ago, when I first came to live in the Netherlands," says the journalist and describes the way Rabat works as: "Scary. First, I got a call on behalf of the Moroccan ambassador asking if I wanted to help improve the image of Morocco here." The journalist declined, but was "accosted by the press attaché at a conference", though he was able to brush the embassy staff member aside. Afterwards the journalist was rung again, once at work and once at home.

Monitoring the Berbers
Two articles from the Arabic department of Radio Netherlands Worldwide, which were published word for word on Morocco's largest website Hespress, have received reactions from dozens of Moroccans living in various European cities and Morocco. Rabat wants to monitor the Berbers living in the Netherlands, is basically the gist of the commentaries. "What frightens Morocco is the fact that half a million Berbers Moroccans are living in the Netherlands. Amsterdam is the third largest Berber town after Nador and Al-Huceima," says one reaction. Another, written by someone who calls himself "the star of the Rif" says "The liberation of the Rif is taking place in Europe." An emigrant Berber writes: "First, this regime drove us out of our country, then they followed us here."

Language and culture
No less than three quarters of Moroccans in the Netherlands are of Berber origin. Ethnically, there is no difference between the Berbers and the Arab Moroccans; only language and culture divide the two groups. In the past, Berbers were treated as second-class citizens, but nowadays their language and culture are more recognised by Moroccan authorities. Arabic is still the official language of the country.

Mahjoub Benmoussa of Platform Foreigners Rijnmond, an association which assists integration into Dutch society, thinks the reason Rabat wants to keep tabs on Moroccans in the Netherlands is because they "can move freely in political, trade union and cultural circles here without being monitored. Their influence affects Morocco." Former chairman of the Dutch Cooperative of Morccans, Said Boudouft, believes that economic factors also play a role - a lot of money generated by Moroccans in Europe passes back into the Moroccan economy. Fear of "Islamic cells operating from Europe who have proven that they can strike within Morocco" is another factor.

Dutch Foreign Minister Verhagen has condemned the actions of the Moroccan Secret Service and says the Netherlands is "ill served by the vile practices". Next week's debate in parliament will no doubt lead to heated debate. Reacting to Moroccans who allow themselves to be influenced by Rabat, Conservative VVD MP Fred Teeven said: "They have two passports. If they think their future lies in Morocco, then they must clear off there as quickly as possible." And with incidents of Moroccan attempts at espionage also reported in France, Spain and Belgium, the heat from next week's debate in the Dutch parliament could be felt across Europe's political plains.

messageRe: Morocco drives out its Berbers, then spies on them
Posted by: chelhman
Date: September 21, 2008 07:15PM

I think this is an incendiary title that is not justified, the correct phrasing would have been "Morocco spies on Moroccans", what does their ethnic background has to do with this ?
The fact that northern Europe has drained mostly Moroccans from the Rif region is beside the point, it's completely coïncidental and has no bearing on the subject.
Moroccan intel monitors its citizens abroad ? So ? Maybe that has something to do with the fact that some of the funding for islamist activities comes from money collected from MREs or that the logistics of the previous bombing attempts came from MREs in Europe...etc



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/22/2008 12:50AM by chelhman.

messageRe: Morocco drives out its Berbers, then spies on them
Posted by: atlasmagic
Date: September 21, 2008 10:06PM

This is not new that Morocco spices on Moroccans abroad being Arabs or Berbers ,Fassis or Ouajdis .....
since the days of "ila alamame" even before...Ben Barka ....
so if the cover is blown in Holland others are still in mosques in Paris ,Mardrid ,London ect ....& this is a known fact ... so as per Chelhman this does not have any ehnic background & should not be used as so

messageRe: Morocco drives out its Berbers, then spies on them
Posted by: Hicham_A
Date: September 21, 2008 11:14PM

Salam


Instead of wasting time and money sending clombos overseas, there is mcuh to do to help our immigrants have a better life in Europe..

Besides, this is the kind of articles adding fuel on fire... what arabs or berbers are these gentlemen talking about???


"There is nothing similar to the fragrance of arid earth being struck by crazy drops of rain rushing downwards like desperate arrows competing towards an iron shield"

messageRe: Morocco drives out its Berbers, then spies on them
Posted by: adds
Date: September 23, 2008 11:04AM

This is not a proper declaration anyone can spread such nonsense on the web. Berbers generally speaking are hard working citizens; if this is true why 87% of Moroccan living in Holland is scrounging from the socials? Moroccan authorities have different way of tabbing their selected citizens all over the world. This is not the place to reveal such information and it’s not that important if they do.
As Moroccan, we all have Berber origins to some extent. Besides that there is no one purely Arab this subject is not healthy in Ramadan.yawning smiley


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